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Let me first start off by saying that this is an excellent product, and I will give the details of why I say that at the bottom of this review, but first, let me say that these MAY NOT be what you need. Before you pull the trigger and buy these, let me tell you why you may need a different type, and how to tell: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There actually is more than one commonly used shelf pin SIZE, first off. I can say with certainty that there are at LEAST THREE commonly used sizes. 3mm, 5mm, and 1/4". There may be more, but this is what I am aware of myself at the moment. The easiest way to determine the pin size that you need is to measure one of the pins themselves if you do in fact have at least one in hand. Trying to measure the hole can be a bit tricky, especially if it is a larger piece of furniture in a place where both positioning yourself to see the measurement, AND providing yourself adequate lighting to see well enough to ensure an accurate measurement, may be difficult at best. If you have at least ONE PIN, you can measure it where you have good lighting and don't have to be a yoga master to see what you are doing. The next thing you need to consider is the shelf piece that will sit on top of the pins. These pins are known as the, "L" type, for reasons that should be obvious. There are also the "Peg" style, and the "Spoon" style pins. If you look at the underside of one of your shelf pieces, you MAY notice either cutouts, or plastic clips that are a tell-tale sign of what type of pin you SHOULD use. Cutouts (or, small indentions if you prefer), are usually in the shape of the pin that fits properly, and keep the shelves from sliding in or out when moving items on and off of them. If there are plastic clips, these are almost ALWAYS used with "PIN" style pegs, and are designed so that the pins actualy snap into those clips. That type of pin is round on both sides, (the part that pushes into the holes on the sides, AND the part that clips into the underside of the shelf) They often, but not always, also have a sort of, "doughnut" right aound the center. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If the undersides of your shelves do not have a relief of any kind for a certain type of pin, nor the plastic clips, this still does not mean that you can use this "L" type bracket. you MAY still need the, "Spoon" type. To find out if you can use THESE "L" type brackets in particular, (because I am using measurements from THIS actual product) do the following: Take one of your shelves and put it in the spot where it goes, but just let it lay all the way at the bottom of it's compartmenmt. (If you have at least four lipns, you COULD put the self on the pins, but for the sake of accuracy, it's much better and easier to just slide it in on the, "floor" of the bay it goes in) Now position the movable shelf piece so that either side is butted up square and flush against the side where the pins for it are supposed to go. Once you have the shelf in position and flush to one side, you need to measure the gap on the opposite side. Some "L" style pins are thicker than others. THESE PINS, WHEN INSTALLED, WILL TAKE UP 1/16", (OR 1.5MM) on EACH SIDE. PLACING THE PINS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SHELF, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, VERY NECESSARRY, WILL REQUIRE THAT YOUR SHELF HAVE AT LEAST A 1/8", (OR A 3MM) GAP TOTAL WHEN YOU MEASURE AS I HAVE OUTLINED ABOVE, OR IT WILL NOT FIT BETWEEN THE "L" BRACKETS WITHOUT MODIFICATION TO THE SHELF! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I JUST recieved THESE PINS, from THIS SELLER today. Measuring one of them using vernear calipers, the pin is 0.245" in diameter. Precisely what you want to see in a 1/4" pin. The actual pin LENGTH is 0.350" If you look closelyy at the picture of the product, you will notice that on the side that faces the edge of the shelf when installed, the round head is QUITE LARGE. That is becasue these are very nice, high quality pins! The pin itself is only 1/4" where it pushes into the hole in your shelving unit, BUT, that metal pin passes ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BRACKET PORTION, and is much larger than the hole it goes through on the inside. Tnhis means that if the joint fails for whatever reason, it is STILL IMPOSSIBLE for the "L" piece to fall off when your shelf is resting on it. It si VERY SECURE! All of the peices I recieved are well formed with no, "double stamps," or other manufacturing defects, adn the finish is bright and without flaws on each one as well. Shipping was LIGHTNING FAST all the way from Utau to New York, too! Great job Router Bit World! 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