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I Followed directions to get Hue bulb to connect. It came with the Echo and the directions say: To set up your free bulb, plug in and set up your Echo Plus, plug in your bulb, and ask, “Alexa, discover my devices." All I get is "no devices found" even when turning on skill in the app. I have a hue account set up and logged in. If you try to join the Hue app itself it said "no bridge found". I asked Alexa "is Hub turned on" and get no answer. I ask to "turn Hub on" same thing. I went and bought another HUE bulb and it does not work either. I bought this for THE HUB, but it does not seem to work. I'm sending back. On a side note most new home automation devices are WIFI now and do not need a hub. I just wanted to connect my older devices without an external hub. I like the idea, but if I would make one of these I would have made a hub that worked and would have included Z-wave in the hub as well. I'm sending back and ordering the ECHO without the hub. I also ordered a samsung gen 3 HUB to go with it and all will be good. I do think the ECHO with the better speaker design is a great Alexa device. I love Alexa and everything the dot and Echo do, I just think the Built it hub didn't work out for them so well. ADDITIONAL INFO: We even tried to connect our front door lock that was Zigbee and it would not connect in pairing mode. Tried several times and no luck. I think the HUB on the device I bought must be defective. I have been working with home automation since the first generation and are very familiar with programming. We also set up out own alarm system and camera system with automation and garage door control.