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** BUYER BEWARE ** Questionable Quality
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Quality highly questionable. This Horbaach EGCG Green Tea extract likely is under-dosed or missing active ingredient. They claim it is lab tested, but all evidence points to it NOT being lab tested. Lab test is an apparent false claim.
I have experienced major quality issues with Horbaach (who is also Carlyle) previously. For example, they claim all their products are lab tested for quality and purity. Sounds good, right? So I'll just request the lab test COA for this product to make sure everything is on the up and up. I should note, there are NO reputable supplement companies today that refuse to provide COAs upon request. It's very standard practice these days in the supplement industry and I actually have a folder on my PC of literally hundreds of them from dozens and dozens of supplement companies.
So to continue, I had contacted them with the request for a COA. I received a reply in less than 24 hours, but it wasn't good. They refused to supply a COA for their product. When asked why, they claimed it contained confidential info about their supplier. Okay, no problem. I replied and told them I'm perfectly fine with them redacting any and all confidential supplier info - I just need to see the *actual analysis data* on the product material. It's a more than fair compromise and other companies have done this with no issue at all. But they wrote back and STILL refused to provide any COA, despite the fact they could redact *anything* they wanted, which completely resolves their original reason for not providing it. But nope ... they outright refused to provide any data from the COA, or any evidence of lab testing at all, utterly refusing to *even slightly* stand behind their product. Can't have accountability now, can we.
So with that, Horbaach utterly refuses to stand behind their products at all. Instead, they just say "trust us" and expect every gullible customer so go along with it. Without verifiable lab analysis as evidence that the label claims what is says, this EGCG Green Tea extract supplement from Horbaach may in fact *not* contain ANY detectable EGCG at all. After all, how would we know? Are we to just blindly trust a company who spurns substantiating their claims? Especially a company like Horbaach who is clearly repulsed by the idea of transparency and hides behind charlatan "trust us" language. Just like the man selling his magic tonic out of his truck 100 years ago, the snake oil salesman's favorite phrase is, "Trust me, it's good." And NOW you know why their prices are so low.
So I not only advise, but I beg you for the sake of your health, to AVOID this EGCG supplement--and ANY other supplement--from Horbaach (or Carlyle) supplements for now. Stay away from The Carlyle Group altogether, no matter what new brand name they come up with next. Spread this info far and wide, with family, friends, social media, etc. *If* it's really as bad as it seems, this would be nothing short of supplement FRAUD and could even harm you if something is in them that we don't know about. We need responsible, trustworthy supplement companies who embrace transparency and are willing to lab test their supplements, not big *private equity firms* (yes, you read that right) like The Carlyle Group looking to make a quick buck fleecing people in the supplement industry.
June 2022 · Health and Household · verified purchase